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June 25, 2008

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Mark

It seems to me that Alito is grasping and nit picking facts to support his personal feelings on the matter.

"Thus, the failure to enact capital child-rape laws cannot be viewed as evidence of a moral consensus against such punishment."

It can also be argued that states that didn't enact capital child-rape laws only did so because they abolished death penalties altogether but would if they had capital punishment. But the fact of the matter is most have not for one reason or another.

Then when he goes on to comparing capital child rape to an accomplice in murder situation i think is a clear sign of how far he is grasping to support his reasoning. Its unfair using two examples at completely different ends of the spectrum of severity to support his dissent. That reminds me of the political grandstanding politicians use when they are badmouthing each other over voting against a sex offender law. "John Doe supports sex offenders being in your neighborhood" type of comments.

Corey Rayburn Yung

Mark,

I agree. I'm surprised that some have found Alito's dissent to be powerful and persuasive. To me, it reads as punching a bunch of holes in the majority opinion, but it lacks any coherence of its own. As some say, it takes a theory to beat a theory. Since Alito can't make up his mind which theory he is supporting in the dissent, he adopts a different perspective on every page. And a lot of the time, those different perspectives contradict each other.

In your example, I agree with Alito that counting states that have no death penalty is problematic. However, it does not follow that you ignore those states altogether.

And he offers no principled line for which crimes should be subject to the 8th Amendment. He just says that the majority's rule seems unjust (again, unconnected to 8th Amendment doctrine).

In all, I was sorely disappointed in the dissent, but in some quarters it seems to be scoring some points.

Corey

Mark

"but in some quarters it seems to be scoring some points."

of course it is, i think it will score points in the groups that feel all sex offenders should be rounded up and herded on some island. He even seems to hint bitterness that the majority of the justices didn't agree with him in those respects.

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